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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 2:26 am 
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Discuss the game Out Of Character in this thread.

Suggestion: To avoid confusion in this thread, if a TFL member has the same screen name as the character he/she/it is playing in the RP, type the character's name normally, but underline the screen name or put it in ALL CAPITAL LETTERS. For example, Minerva's location is on Cybertron, but Minerva's location is in Sweden. Wreck-Gar sang from Weird Al's song "Amish Paradise" in one of WRECK-GAR's posts. (Bonus points for the Wreck-Gar/Weird Al reference, by the way.) i want to blow Dirge and Skywarp to pieces, but i don't want to blow up Dirge and Skywarp.

Blackjack doesn't recognize Wreck-Gar and the Junkions, but Dirge knows what Junkions are, and the Junkions themselves are already allied with the Autobots. Presumably that means that in this game's continuity, the Cybertronian TFs have encountered the Junkions before, but Blackjack has not personally encountered any, so he doesn't recognize them right away, even if he knows what they are. Like, an Earthling Human might know that a lynx is a type of giant cat, but might actually see a lynx for the first time and only know that they're looking at a giant cat, without realizing, "Oh, so this is what a lynx looks like." Does that make sense? As another example, Wreck-Gar and the Junkions might immediately recognize and defend Blackjack and Minerva (even though neither of them is the leader of the Autobots, and even though neither of them recognize any of the Junkions, despite both of them knowing what Junkions are), the same way that a group of off-duty U.S. Marines might recognize and defend Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton (even though neither of them is the President of the United States, and even though neither of them recognize any of the Marines, despite both of them knowing what the Marines are).

In other news, i have been informed that i am not supposed to have as many characters as i do; i have asked a mod for an exception, but 1) am willing to accept it if i'm told no, and 2) am NOT willing to wait for an answer.

Therefore, i will be incapacitating my half-dozen Junkions, at least for now, and temporarily taking on the role of a Decepticon character. i'd much rather play for the Autobots, but since TT's characters seem disinclined to join the fight in Iacon just yet, i think the Decepticons could use someone on their side to help make it more of a fair fight: three-and-a-half Autobots, three Decepticons.

3.5 AUTOBOTS (once my Junkions are out of the fight)
Blackjack
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Minerva
whoever/whatever Minerva is on her way to help

3 DECEPTICONS (once i add my new character)
Dirge
Skywarp
Solder (my new character)

i would like to emphasize that i expect Solder to be a temporary role, so don't give him anything too important to do; i expect him to be deactivated before this scene is over, or at the very least flee and go off somewhere to hide while i play somebody more important.

Oh, and whatever happens, i don't think i want to play a faction leader anytime soon.

Another thing: i'm curious to see if anyone can identify the sources of all the things Wreck-Gar and my Junkions are saying. (My Junkions call themselves "the A-Team", by the way.)

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Minerva's on her way to help me, although I won't be in any shape to fight for some time, I'm afraid.


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Once I get a bit more free time here, I will be joining back up with my partner in crime... Autobots Beware!

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STARS, I spoke with Blackjack on the phone last night, and we were able to synchronize our gears on what's going on in the roleplay. We don't mind you using the A-Team, and we're both amused and impressed by your post introducing him. The concern does not lie with the multiplicity of troops, but more with a PRIMARY character. That is, a character who is most often interacting with other people's characters, and who will alone play a major role in advancing the plot. Accompanying troops in this case are fine, as they could add to the effect of your primary character, without detracting from other player's characters ability to talk to yours. Basically, we're trying to avoid the scenario where a person is essentially roleplaying only with HIMSELF, rather than with other characters.
Regarding my use of Pinstripe and his "gang" is solely for plot purposes, and the 'gang' is more a threat Pinstripe can hold than an actual regular fighting force. As for characters vs. forum names of flesh creatures, it is generally clear which meaning is intended, and even then, sometimes our members like to jilt each other with remarks relating to their respective characters on the main board for fun. While we (the administrative team) thank you for your idea, and like feedback, such a formatting reform would be difficult to instate and enforce.
Feel free to play out both Solder's and the A-Team's roles throughout the battle, until you decide which you prefer to play in the long term.

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i quite see your point about a primary character, although i'm torn when it comes to what i should do about it. i'll have to think about it.

Just "thinking out loud" here, putting some ideas out for consideration--i might reject them myself if there isn't positive feedback, but any feedback (positive or negative) would be useful to me in figuring out how i can be useful to the game and to the gamers while still having fun myself.

What if i split the A-Team into three pairs (so they can take turns as bike and rider), and "attach" each pair to someone else's player character, only using each pair when the other character is around? For example, if one pair stays with Wreck-Gar, one pair stays with Blackjack, and one pair stays with Minerva. (Pairs may swap places, mix-and-match, switch from following one character to following a different one if we get more players, etc., as circumstances warrant in the game and for the players.) That way, i lessen how much i roleplay with myself, because any other player roleplaying with me can focus on a primary Junkion character (say, whoever's the rider at the moment), while any given pair of my Junkions focuses on the other player's character, and i only roleplay with myself as a whole bunch of Junkions when the Autobots are all in a big group anyway.

Matching pairs of my Junkions with other players' characters also makes some sense from the characters' point of view. Before the arrival of Wreck-Gar (and, by retcon, the A-Team), Blackjack and Minerva had to split up, leaving both of them alone. With more characters available, it seems reasonable to me that no one should have to go anywhere without backup. (The only reason the A-Team didn't send a few of its members to back her up is that they came on the scene too late to know she was out there without anybody watching her back.) Plus, having someone on hand gives everyone the option of splitting up again, if they come to a fork in the road, or need to send a messenger/courier, or anything like that (all also valid excuses for players to dump my characters if they don't want their characters stuck with a Junkion escort).

In addition, if i have characters in more than one place at one time, that means i can keep roleplaying even if another player doesn't log in for a while. Like, if Mr. Roboto is infiltrating Kaon with Blackjack and Alias is in the ruins of Crystal City with Minerva, and then Blackjack doesn't log in for a week, i can keep roleplaying the Alias/Minerva storyline. (i know i'm not in a position to point fingers at anybody for not posting, but it's the kind of thing that happens to a lot of people, not just me, and it could happen to anyone at any time, right? and i don't want to stop playing just because someone else does, any more than i want others to have to stop playing because i do, if that makes sense.)

...You're right, one player having this many player characters is just too complicated. i should let the Junkions fade into the background of the story and break out a new character.

So, let me make things worse by expanding the Junkion aspect of the story. ;-)

TIME TRAVELLER: Pinstripe and his gang are trying to stay unnoticed for now, and the rest of us playing the game are thus far staying in character when it comes to not noticing Pinstripe and company--but that leaves you roleplaying by yourself. Regardless of whether or not that's against the rules, or allowed because you're a mod... ain't it gonna get kinda lonely if your characters don't interact with anyone else's?

"Radio Deuce," Pinstripe said. What if Radiohead (even if the only part of himself he can control right now IS his radio head) unintentionally picks up the transmission, overhears the whole conversation between [Chopper?] and Deuce?

(Actually, the one to pick up that transmission doesn't have to be a Junkion at all; i just thought of Radiohead because Pinstripe used the verb "radio", and detecting radio is exactly what Radiohead's head's old job used to be.)

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Minerva's on her way to help me, although I won't be in any shape to fight for some time, I'm afraid.


That's why i only counted your character as half an Autobot. ;-)

Also, i didn't know if you would be playing Sideways again, or if you were introducing a new character. If you are going to be playing as Sideways, i assume we're talking about someone who looks like your avatar, the motorcycle from Armada? Because:

1) Gosh darn it, if only there was somebody nearby who knew something about repairing robots who transform into motorcycles! (Also, maybe Sideways could be repaired with Junkion parts--if i retire the A-Team, it won't matter if they don't get all of their parts back, and if the A-Team survives, well, they're Junkions! They're as likely to have extra parts as they are to have missing parts, and probably jury-rig themselves into functional condition either way.)

2) i made up an even number of Junkions so that i could pair them off as bikes and riders; no offense meant to Wreck-Gar, but i didn't want Wreck-Gar to get used to riding any of my characters on anything like a regular basis, in case i relapse into not posting for a long time again. However, might Wreck-Gar and Sideways take turns as each other's rides/bikers?

Speaking of Wreck-Gar--HA! i was not expecting that plot twist where Wreck-Gar wouldn't be able to control Radiohead's arm! Clever writing, WRECK-GAR! As for using a Junkion's severed limb as a club, you read my mind! (i'd compliment you for that clever idea, too, but since i just said i was thinking the exact same thing, it would sound like bragging.) Outback's arm in "Spotlight: Kup" or Buzz Lightyear's arm in "Toy Story 1", anybody?

And getting back to the subject of repairs and pairing up, i somewhat expect at least one of my Junkions (assuming they don't get written out of the story) to start following Minerva-the-medic around. Not necessarily like a crush, but more like he's fascinated with how different her methods of repairing things are from Junkion methods. He might want to learn how to do some things her way, and/or he might suggest that she do some things the Junkion way instead, perhaps even going so far as to tell her she's wasting time and effort doing it her way when the Junkion way is so much faster and works just as well... or at least good enough... at least to last until the next time it needs to be fixed.

DIRGE, SKYWARP: Sorry for the godmoding. Most of it, i think, i simply made the things you posted yourselves more specific, and followed them through (you had your characters take a few shots, and i said where those shots hit). The exception was when Solder shoved Dirge. Sorry about that; i felt a need to explain why my new, temporary character would do something (like take out a few Junkions) when the action was so redundant to what yours were already doing. i'll try not to do it again; i usually hate it when people godmode, and here i am, doing it myself. Bad Commando!

And if i'm trying to avoid godmoding, maybe i should let WRECK-GAR decide if Wreck-Gar's arm should do an impression of Thing from The Addams Family and return itself and Wreck-Gar's front wheel to him.

QUESTION FOR EVERYBODY: Out of curiosity, since our characters can come from just about any continuity for this game, i wonder... Have any of us given any thought to how many Mini-Cons can attach at the same time to any of our characters, and what kind of boosts our characters get from a Mini-Con plugging in?

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I can tell you now, I'm not using the motorcycle from Armada. The Sideways I am playing is not really the same Sideways that he was in the cartoon. Imagine Sideways ACTUALLY being a transformer and not a minion of Unicron.

My version of Sideways is just that. He could be considered an alternate reality version - a version that was freed from Unicron's grasp by Primus and returned to Cybertron. He retains some aspects of being controlled by Unicron: He's a genius. He used his high intelligence to code and construct a supercomputer that controls the laboratory he built in the ruins of an old factory.

To fill you in somewhat on what happened during the pause: Sideways is heavily damaged, because he experimented on his body way too much and it backfired. Rev (a secondary character that I also played) is gone. Sideways' freighter "Maus" fell apart because of heavy disuse.

I have plans to try and be more involved with our storyline now. I figured I could try and get this RP back on it's feet with a rescue mission of some kind. It seems to be working.


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Yeah, many of our characters are quite different from their canon namesakes. Canon Minerva is a Human with a Transtector; here, she's 100% Transformer. Canon Blackjack is a Decepticon, not an Autobot. A Nova is a type of car, not a motorcycle; and it turns out that Radiohead is actually a bunch of Humans, not a transforming robot with a radio for a head.

But does your character LOOK LIKE the Armada character? (And if so, with or without any Mini-Con "Headmasters"?) Does your "alternate reality" Sideways transform into a motorcycle? Because all the stuff i said about your character and the Junkions could still work, even though (or maybe especially because) your character is not the same character from Armada.

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Okay, some points in random order.
Pinstripe RPing alone is necessary to build some background right off the bat for him, and I do hope to make contact soon. I had not anticipated a battle breaking out so quickly, and Pinstripe would be out-of-character to have his troops or self engage either side. Radiohead could pick up Chopper's transmission to Deuce, but please mind that I have specific plans for which character Deuce will indiscreetly make first contact with.

As for the A-Team, I do like them, but I'm not sure how I feel about them being attached to separate characters. Once things stabilize, Iacon will again need "inhabitants", which were formerly the numbers of human-played Autobots, as well as a few generic crewmen from the Ætherspite (ie, Bombsight, Double Clutch, and Redline, until she was adopted as someone's main character). They would pop out during major battles as accompaniment to the main characters, without having any major outcomes on the fighting. As for posting frequency, having 3 separate pairs with their non-Junkion counterparts would perhaps keep you TOO busy. I still think if you'd like to keep RPing them, you could pick one to focus on, do the talking to other characters, have time-developed traits like the interaction with Minerva about medical methods. The others, when not battling with the main man, could be "around" and "doing stuff". Sort of a reservoir for when someone needs a squad to do battle. For Example: Wreck-Gar in the Sunbow cartoon. He's around alone frequently, and occasionally he's among other Junkions who help him turn the tide of battle or make a ship out of 38 metric tons of paper clips.

As for the uncontrollable arm, I was more thinking of it wearing a black glove and Peter Sellers yelling "Mein Führer! I can walk!"

Also of note, most of our de-canonized characters have their differences explained in their bios in the rosters pages. Further, it's worth mentioning that the plot takes place in an alternate G1 based universe, and most characters from other times/universes have had their appearances explained somehow. Sideways arrived presumably due to Unicron being a multiversal singularity (not to mention a god), and some of the Beast Wars characters pulled a reverse Starscream and inhabited sparkless protoforms in Time Traveller's lab. (There was actually an incident where a tiny (relative to G1 characters) Axalon and Darksyde crashed on G1 Cybertron... hilarity ensues). So far, we've had a few Beast Wars era characters, one Armadaverse, one RiDverse, and a couple Movieverse characters. Thusly,, Sideways would be the only one who would know about Mini-Cons, though many characters have had binary bonded or other master-technology partners. (Blackjack has an actual former Nebulan police detective, Cambreaker has Galvatron's old voodoo doll adapted for emergency detachment and escape, and aforementioned Danes almost all had some sort of standard master-partners.)

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OH! i did not know this was a G1-based continuity. i thought we were just retconning that characters from all continuities came from the same continuity. Luckily my characters so far have been G1, but the new potentially permanent characters i was working on were Armada-ish, so they'll need to be adjusted accordingly.

i was also thinking of pulling a reverse "Shattered Glass" (instead of "G1" Cliffjumper winding up in the Shattered Glass universe, someone from Shattered Plastic might wind up in the "Intact Plastic" RP, because maybe for every Shattered Glass action there is an equal but opposite Intact Plastic reaction), or maybe something like in Dreamwave Armada's "Worlds Collide".

As for differences between RP characters and canon namesakes, i may have to reread the roster; i thought it was just fudged details (G1 cartoon Shockwave, G1 Marvel Shockwave, Dreamwave G1 Shockwave, and IDW Shockwave are all different, so anyone RPing as "G1 Shockwave" could be an amalgam of impressions of any/all those characters, further modified to suit the preferences of the RPer), plus blurred lines between In Character and Out Of Character. (On a deceased message board that had nothing to do with TFs but occasionally had RPs, i once proposed a new status, "HIC"--"Half In Character".)

None of the A-Team are going to pick up Chopper's transmission to Deuce.

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Dirge wrote:
arent you still asleep in kaon cassetteicon ? :lol:


I can barely remember what happened last week let alone where I left myself in the RP! :lol:

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i think i left you behind with ol one eye in our lab when i went to iacon in the go kart :lol:

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One other thing I wanted to note about the continuities that characters come from. We are not playing characters as their personalities exist necessarily in the G1 continuity. The best example of this is Galvatron. While he is still quite insane, I tend to think of this Galvatron as more of a mix between his G1 counterpart, Quagmire from Family Guy, and Wil E. Coyote (maybe I'm missing some, feel free to correct me). So feel free to take an existing character and make them into who you would like them to be. This freedom of expression is what the roleplay is about.

That said, my character is not at all based on any existing G1 continuity characters. He is simply named Blackjack because I wanted a gambling themed transformer. He has a dead love interest named Roulette. I chose a Lotus Esprit for his alt-mode because I happen to enjoy the James Bond movie The Spy Who Loved Me and that happens to be the type of car Bond drives in that movie. I think of Blackjack as a sort of cross between Bond and a 1920's law official (something like Elliot Ness), but I have allowed the character to grow and change with the events of the roleplay.

I look forward to seeing what you come up with STARS in the way of a new character. I'm also hoping the current scuffle between Autobot and Decepticon doesn't last terribly much longer so that we can really get into some good character to character roleplaying. Not that I'm not enjoying seeing my Decepticon friends again. :wink:

I also wanted to note that Blackjack has slightly a more busy life than he used to and is usually not available on weekends though he will certainly try. So if you're invovled in a roleplay with me, I'm sorry and I will do my best but things might move slow with me when the weekend rolls around.


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Since i'm incapacitated (I can't speak, I can't see..),

I'm gonna sit back and watch the story unfold until I'm operational.. I don't need to rush this.. I will reveal my new self in time.. when Minerva gives me a clean bill of health, that is.. :P


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Blackjack wrote:
We are not playing characters as their personalities exist necessarily in the G1 continuity. The best example of this is Galvatron. While he is still quite insane, I tend to think of this Galvatron as more of a mix between his G1 counterpart, Quagmire from Family Guy, and Wil E. Coyote .



You hit the nail right on the head there buddy.

Galvatron is making a comeback in the RP.

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Well shoot. I just typed out a big long post about TLA getting to Iacon and all that jazz. I hit preview instead of submit and navigated away, only to lose all my work.

I HATE IT WHEN THAT HAPPENS!

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This is the character formerly known as Skywarp. :lol: Autobots do as you please with him as I have no interest in role-playing him any longer. I have no qualms about rp'ing a decepticon it's just options are limited as to what I can do with him and have grown quite bored lately. I do plan on re-entering the Rp as Roadbuster but only when the sides even out...even if this takes a while to happen. Either in a freelance role or as part of a Wreckers unit. I've been Rp'ing online for quite some time (Shadow Realm) but as of now this is the only board I'm active on as far as that aspect is concerned. So I will continue to monitor progress and re-enter again soon.

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Galvatron is making a comeback in the RP.


And I will be glad to have him back. We need a good villain at the moment.

Another seeker come and gone. Well we'll just make due.


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Crap, Skywarp is no longer. I had plans for you in the future. :twisted:
Now I must make plans to destroy the Autobot known as Roadbuster
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yourt preperation H plan sounds good ... :lol:

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