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Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 1:50 pm
by Wheeljack
Cliffjumper wrote:awwwwwwwww LOL :(
Well, let's just go in 50/50. Since I am in the US I can place the bid :)

wj

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 2:25 pm
by Minerva
Wow!! That's an impressive collection!
Hm... perhaps I could get a loan? :wink:

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 3:50 pm
by Kup
could happen if we all chip inn :lol:

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 8:24 pm
by Banzai-Tron
1) Said auction is sick.

2) Said auction makes my spidey sense tingle.

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:16 pm
by Time Traveller
I've done some hammering through that list, and I think in this market, he's going to have a hard time getting what he's asking.

Also, there's a little misleading description going on. When he says he has two figures 100% complete to show both modes, the alt mode often doesn't have its own set of accessories.

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:39 pm
by Ultra Magnus
Time Traveller wrote:I've done some hammering through that list, and I think in this market, he's going to have a hard time getting what he's asking.

Also, there's a little misleading description going on. When he says he has two figures 100% complete to show both modes, the alt mode often doesn't have its own set of accessories.
Unless they are in their own separate set of individually labelled baggies (or in the original empty boxes).

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:43 pm
by LD2062
I would think he'd always have a hard time getting that price. I how many collectors have that kind of cash And for those that do, how many would still need all that?

I wonder how many dealers could even be interested at that price, its a lot of cash based on a hand full of small pictures.

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 8:15 pm
by Countdown
Ok, this isn't (as) mind blowing like the others posted.

I have been looking for a Blaze Master from the micromasters line forever. I can't find a complete one anywhere. Finally, I give in and buy one without the rotors from Trance (which by the way is fantastic).

Afterwards, I googled ebay any way for him, and well I thought this was nuts. The worst part is I am tempted to pay it - which is a complete waste and embarrassing.

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$9.99 + shipping. This piece of plastic must weigh next to nothing and I can't see the sense of it. I don't understand it.

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Edited for content. Sorry, hehe... forgot! :)

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 8:18 pm
by Time Traveller
Hey. No trouble here this time, but if you wouldn't mind checking out our new Ebay links policy in announcements (rules thread) before posting the next riduculous auction, i'd appreciate it.

Anywho: i like how he has a pickens plan link in the auction. Use your overpriced Blazemaster rotors to power a windmill for the pickens plan! :lol:

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 11:17 pm
by Banzai-Tron
I hate to say this, but... I'm on the seller's side in this rotor's case, if everything you say is true.

Think about it... if you've been "looking forever" for a complete one, and haven't found it? It's probably fairly rare. Certainly more rare than, say, a Dinobot Sword, An Omega Supreme clip, or seeker missiles that people routinely pay $10 or more for.

In fact, I just went to buy it, since mine doesn't have one either. But I can't find it. So it's either listed weirdly, or someone's already purchased it (probably someone else here that agrees with me while you had the link posted, lol!.

If you decide that you REALLY don't want it, and can still find it, PM me the link!

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 11:32 pm
by Time Traveller
Luckily, i've had my autobot air patrol since 1990, when i got it new at a k-mart, on a clearanced endcap, while mom looked in arts and crafts (don't ask me how i remember this little snippet. my memory works in strange ways).

However, I guess I'm with countdown on this one. When you think about seeker missiles and omega clips, you have to consider 2 things: character popularity and total value.

Practically EVERYONE wants a complete G1 starscream in their collection, and despite reissues, he's still not cheap. Omega is the same story, albeit his value took a bit more damage from the encore... Nevertheless, you'll not lay a finger on either of these, EVEN IF they are missing one clip or one missile, for less than $50.

Autobot Air patrol, however, might MAYBE touch $30 complete. Only big-time, typically completist collectors are searching for one. Is one heli rotor worth half of what four pretty cool micromaster jets are? Not even close, in my book. To me, this is one of those parts that probably shouldn't break the unwritten $5 mark. Also, I just cruised the bay myself, the part is still there, and that seller has a record of being way overpriced. ;)

EDIT: the whole patrol is auctioning from the UK at less than the cost of the rotor at the time of posting!

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 9:33 am
by AstroTrain
I wonder if you could use cash for clunkers towards the 50k auction...I mean it makes sense, all the toys use 0 fuel :)

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 5:28 pm
by Banzai-Tron
I can see your point TT, but the fact remains that the rotor alone is rare. And what good is a helicopter without it's rotor? LOL. If anything this is directly comparable to Vortex (though yes, again Vortex is more desirable... and a LOT more plentiful)

Personally, I have the values broken down as:
4 Micromasters @ 3.00 each = $12
Rotor = $10
Total Value for Set = $22

And I'm *still* not seeing this darn Blaze Master rotor auction.

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:27 pm
by skywarp408

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 9:43 pm
by Banzai-Tron
Now see, that right there is just sad, Skywarp.

That poor USS Flagg has sunk and been entombed, before it ever even left the drydock.

One of these days, I vow to have $10k+ to burn to open a vintage holy grail item, just for the joy of seeing it in pristine condition.

I'll find the irony that the interior contents have STILL managed to degrade exquisite, of course. Especially since my widget invention will still be flying off the shelves ensuring I continually have money to burn.

And then, of course... I'll wake up.

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 9:52 pm
by trance
Wow, some sellers take those AFA grades waaaay too seriously

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:05 pm
by Banzai-Tron
Well... first of all, we can assume he's willing to take less thank $18k.

Secondly, If someone was willing to pay $3k for THIS:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... egory=1168

which is probably an AFA60 at best (I'm really not familiar with their grading, but it has water damage, a hole, etc). Hell, it might not even be gradeable as sealed.

I could definitely see a well to do man of means being willing to part with $12k or so for this particular Flag. This is, after all, the holy grail of holy grails for Joe collectors.

Have we EVER seen an AFA'ed 70+ Fortress Maximus go to auction? I'd be really curious to see what it'd go for!

EDIT: According to some posts on another board:
"AFA 85 Fort Max US went for $7,000.00 4 years ago.
MISB C-9 US Fort Max went for $8,000.00 1 year ago from a respected US Seller to Shanghai, China."

So that *probably* translates to roughly $12k 2 years ago, when we thought everything was fine... and about $6k in todays economy, LOL!

EDIT Part Deux: Anyone else see that "from a respected US Seller TO SHANGHAI, CHINA one, and immediately think: We're gonna see some knock-offs soon! God, I hope not. At least not accurate ones :(

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 1:56 am
by Minerva
Woah! I don't think I will ever truly understand AFA-grading or the amount of money some people are willing to pay for certain items.

EVERYONE: Please remember that no eBay links are allowed (see forum rule #7)!
http://www.transformerland.com/forum/vi ... php?t=3436
If you have any questions, feel free to contact me or any other administrator or moderator.
Thank you. :)

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 4:20 am
by Computron
Banzai-Tron wrote: EDIT Part Deux: Anyone else see that "from a respected US Seller TO SHANGHAI, CHINA one, and immediately think: We're gonna see some knock-offs soon! God, I hope not. At least not accurate ones :(
No way that would be sweet. I'd get one. or Three.

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 1:52 pm
by Time Traveller
All i can say, is AFA got caught grading a zhong jin as original. I'm with Matt. their numbers really mean nothing to me, other than someone paid them a lot of $ to oodle it and then seal it up.