My 6-year-old has confidently informed me that Omega Supreme is going to win. Anyone disagree?
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My 6-year-old has confidently informed me that Omega Supreme is going to win. Anyone disagree?
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Cliffjumper
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Hmmmmm....lets pick 'em apart a little APA style! 
Physical:
Omega Supreme: Most definitely does have considerable firepower and size on his side in either robot or base form. The drawback to that size is that he is not energy efficient. The power put forth in blows or laser fire are taken from his energy stores added to that are the physical moves required to aim at a target and fire. Such size is difficult to move quickly so accuracy rates would be down. Omega Supreme is at another disadvantage in that he is based on a more ancient line of robot than the Constructicons.
Devastator: Large indeed but highly manuverable with more advanced technology. Devastator's six components as opposed to one large one would make for more energy stores during battle. When under extreme duress the six components may detatch and become six smaller units with an ability to combine firepower in a concentrated effort.
Skills: Engineering skills for both parties would I believe fairly contitute a stalemate.
Emotional:
Despite being flexible, skilled intelligent fighters.....Devastator's six components were altered mentally by Megatron therefore their will is Megatron's. Any deviation from that program which may/probably does consist of outside individual endeavors may be clouded by Megatron's programming which may entail a survival instinct to live to fight another day. During battle their ability to "think outside the box" is a definite asset.
In short if Devastator is getting trashed he will make a strategic retreat rather than try to gain the upper hand in a battle long before a decisive (fatal) blow can be given by an adversary.
Devastator's glaring flaw is that he feels invulnerable and powerful. It is this confidence in his abilities and the egotistical impulses of his component parts that could be the downfall of the larger robot.
Omega Supreme:
Revenge...........he wants it and wants it bad! His grudge holding capabilities could put a woman to shame. Like a spurned lover Omega Supreme stalked the Universe hunting the Constructicons for one purpose and one purpose only........ to annihilate them. The only reason why Omega Supreme is on Earth to begin with is because the Constructicons are there, he just stumbled onto his fellow Autobots by happy chance.
Omega Supreme is at a disadvantage to the Constructicons in that he is unable to deviate from "The way he knows" that could be a key to his downfall. His belief in justified violence and style of approaching problems in a rigid manner would be a detriment to his ablities to marshall his many strengths against the extremely plastic Constructicons.
Omega Supreme also has another personality flaw in that he has a one track mind. His anger and hate for the Constructicons even lead Omega to disobey his leader Optimus Prime if only for a short time which leaves him open to unforseen attacks.
However that flaw can also be a strength. Omega Supreme proves his desire and will evn though it is a cruel impule to seek revenge.
Sometimes will and the need to overcome a foe is all a fighter needs to dominate a fight.
In Battle:
Omega:
It would be extremely important for Omega Supreme to get good strikes onto Devastator early in the fight to weaken both the large robot but also the six component robots as well. If Omega Supreme could cause significant damage to two or more of the Constructicons at the early onset of a fight and continue the punishment with little resistance the battle is his.
Devastator: It would be extremely important for Devastator to counteract the powerful blows given by Omega Supreme and lessen to damage to his large body and component robots at the onset of the battle. If Devastator could withstand the beginning of the battle with Omega Supreme and wear him down both physically and emotionally victory would be inevitable for the Constructicons.
The key to defeating Omega Supreme would be to have the stamina to repel his attacks long enough for his energy to ebb away then to concentrate firepower on Omega Supreme's weak points therefore using his own size against him. Emotionally they would have to find a way to dampen the will in Omega Supreme's thoughts. Since he has very little hope for the future of anything....... he thrives on emotional anger which impairs logical thinking.
But..........
I think with enough energon and time Omega Supreme could pound the snot out of Devastator eventually........ but a "real" fight would I think see an early defeat of the Constructicons and their subsequent retreat before any significant damage could be done.
Physical:
Omega Supreme: Most definitely does have considerable firepower and size on his side in either robot or base form. The drawback to that size is that he is not energy efficient. The power put forth in blows or laser fire are taken from his energy stores added to that are the physical moves required to aim at a target and fire. Such size is difficult to move quickly so accuracy rates would be down. Omega Supreme is at another disadvantage in that he is based on a more ancient line of robot than the Constructicons.
Devastator: Large indeed but highly manuverable with more advanced technology. Devastator's six components as opposed to one large one would make for more energy stores during battle. When under extreme duress the six components may detatch and become six smaller units with an ability to combine firepower in a concentrated effort.
Skills: Engineering skills for both parties would I believe fairly contitute a stalemate.
Emotional:
Despite being flexible, skilled intelligent fighters.....Devastator's six components were altered mentally by Megatron therefore their will is Megatron's. Any deviation from that program which may/probably does consist of outside individual endeavors may be clouded by Megatron's programming which may entail a survival instinct to live to fight another day. During battle their ability to "think outside the box" is a definite asset.
In short if Devastator is getting trashed he will make a strategic retreat rather than try to gain the upper hand in a battle long before a decisive (fatal) blow can be given by an adversary.
Devastator's glaring flaw is that he feels invulnerable and powerful. It is this confidence in his abilities and the egotistical impulses of his component parts that could be the downfall of the larger robot.
Omega Supreme:
Revenge...........he wants it and wants it bad! His grudge holding capabilities could put a woman to shame. Like a spurned lover Omega Supreme stalked the Universe hunting the Constructicons for one purpose and one purpose only........ to annihilate them. The only reason why Omega Supreme is on Earth to begin with is because the Constructicons are there, he just stumbled onto his fellow Autobots by happy chance.
Omega Supreme is at a disadvantage to the Constructicons in that he is unable to deviate from "The way he knows" that could be a key to his downfall. His belief in justified violence and style of approaching problems in a rigid manner would be a detriment to his ablities to marshall his many strengths against the extremely plastic Constructicons.
Omega Supreme also has another personality flaw in that he has a one track mind. His anger and hate for the Constructicons even lead Omega to disobey his leader Optimus Prime if only for a short time which leaves him open to unforseen attacks.
However that flaw can also be a strength. Omega Supreme proves his desire and will evn though it is a cruel impule to seek revenge.
Sometimes will and the need to overcome a foe is all a fighter needs to dominate a fight.
In Battle:
Omega:
It would be extremely important for Omega Supreme to get good strikes onto Devastator early in the fight to weaken both the large robot but also the six component robots as well. If Omega Supreme could cause significant damage to two or more of the Constructicons at the early onset of a fight and continue the punishment with little resistance the battle is his.
Devastator: It would be extremely important for Devastator to counteract the powerful blows given by Omega Supreme and lessen to damage to his large body and component robots at the onset of the battle. If Devastator could withstand the beginning of the battle with Omega Supreme and wear him down both physically and emotionally victory would be inevitable for the Constructicons.
The key to defeating Omega Supreme would be to have the stamina to repel his attacks long enough for his energy to ebb away then to concentrate firepower on Omega Supreme's weak points therefore using his own size against him. Emotionally they would have to find a way to dampen the will in Omega Supreme's thoughts. Since he has very little hope for the future of anything....... he thrives on emotional anger which impairs logical thinking.
But..........
I think with enough energon and time Omega Supreme could pound the snot out of Devastator eventually........ but a "real" fight would I think see an early defeat of the Constructicons and their subsequent retreat before any significant damage could be done.
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Cliffjumper
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From their Tech Specs:
Omega Supreme:
Strength: 10
Intelligence: 5
Speed: 3
Endurance: 10
Courage: 10
Firepower: 10
Skill: 6
Devastator:
Strength: 10
Intelligence: 2
Speed: 1
Endurance: 9
Courage: 10
Firepower: 8
Skill: 4
Yep: Omega's Tougher, Smarter, Faster (but still really slow), more Skilled and has more Firepower. That's not as detailed as Roar's analysis (a little scary that, but good job BTW!) but yeah, I'd also say Omerga wins, assuming Devastaor doesn't retreat. And with an Intelligence of 2 and a Courage of 10, he may just stick around long enough to get pounded into scrap.
But I'm just going off the Tech Specs.
Omega Supreme:
Strength: 10
Intelligence: 5
Speed: 3
Endurance: 10
Courage: 10
Firepower: 10
Skill: 6
Devastator:
Strength: 10
Intelligence: 2
Speed: 1
Endurance: 9
Courage: 10
Firepower: 8
Skill: 4
Yep: Omega's Tougher, Smarter, Faster (but still really slow), more Skilled and has more Firepower. That's not as detailed as Roar's analysis (a little scary that, but good job BTW!) but yeah, I'd also say Omerga wins, assuming Devastaor doesn't retreat. And with an Intelligence of 2 and a Courage of 10, he may just stick around long enough to get pounded into scrap.
But I'm just going off the Tech Specs.
Well, if it even matters:
Megatron:
Strength: 10
Intelligence: 10
Speed: 4
Endurance: 8
Courage: 9
Firepower: 10
Skill: 9
Bumblebee:
Strength: 2
Intelligence: 8
Speed: 4
Endurance: 7
Courage: 10
Firepower: 1
Skill: 7
BB better hope he even has enough speed to get away. (He may be brave... but he's not STUPID!) (But how on earth does BB rate a 7 for Endurance if Megatron gets an 8? WTF?!
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(And Rumble? You're right: He is already fleeing in that picture!)
Megatron:
Strength: 10
Intelligence: 10
Speed: 4
Endurance: 8
Courage: 9
Firepower: 10
Skill: 9
Bumblebee:
Strength: 2
Intelligence: 8
Speed: 4
Endurance: 7
Courage: 10
Firepower: 1
Skill: 7
BB better hope he even has enough speed to get away. (He may be brave... but he's not STUPID!) (But how on earth does BB rate a 7 for Endurance if Megatron gets an 8? WTF?!
)(And Rumble? You're right: He is already fleeing in that picture!)
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I'd say grimlock.
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No contest, one punch and he would be out of it. As for Omega Supreme and Devastator....
I would side with Omega Supreme. *avoids all the peanuts being thrown* For the simple fact that he is powerful and he Totalled 3 seekers, Rumble, Frenzy,Buzzsaw and very nearly me and Laserbeak first time out!!!! The details are in the comic review thread.
I can't do the pic thing (someone help) so Menasor vs Computron.
My money is on Menasor, he is unstable and psychotic (like our resident Ramjet) and powerful beyond measure. A deadly mix.
I would side with Omega Supreme. *avoids all the peanuts being thrown* For the simple fact that he is powerful and he Totalled 3 seekers, Rumble, Frenzy,Buzzsaw and very nearly me and Laserbeak first time out!!!! The details are in the comic review thread.
I can't do the pic thing (someone help) so Menasor vs Computron.
My money is on Menasor, he is unstable and psychotic (like our resident Ramjet) and powerful beyond measure. A deadly mix.
You versus Bumblebee isn't even worth commenting on?
I can't help with Menasor vs Computron, becuase I don't have them.
But if someone does, please post a pic of the fight!
As for Grimlock vs. Shockwave:
Grimlock:
Strength: 10
Intelligence: 7
Speed: 3
Endurance: 10
Courage: 10
Firepower: 8
Skill: 10
Shockwave:
Strength: 10
Intelligence: 10
Speed: 7
Endurance: 7
Courage: 9
Firepower: 9
Skill: 9
Well... Shock has him on Firepower and Speed, they're even on Strength but Grimlock's got him on Endurance and Skill. I guess Grimmy could outlast him, but I don't think I'd go so far as "One punch and he's out." (Except maybe in the cartoon, but I'm talking about in REAL LIFE.)
(And, having just said that, I should probably get one!)
I can't help with Menasor vs Computron, becuase I don't have them.
But if someone does, please post a pic of the fight! As for Grimlock vs. Shockwave:
Grimlock:
Strength: 10
Intelligence: 7
Speed: 3
Endurance: 10
Courage: 10
Firepower: 8
Skill: 10
Shockwave:
Strength: 10
Intelligence: 10
Speed: 7
Endurance: 7
Courage: 9
Firepower: 9
Skill: 9
Well... Shock has him on Firepower and Speed, they're even on Strength but Grimlock's got him on Endurance and Skill. I guess Grimmy could outlast him, but I don't think I'd go so far as "One punch and he's out." (Except maybe in the cartoon, but I'm talking about in REAL LIFE.)
(And, having just said that, I should probably get one!
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