repaint/varient

Post by **Ultra Magnus** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:08 am

Ok, I see some terms thrown around a bit and was wondering if someone could clarify a bit for me. I was wondering what the difference between repaint and varient. Also more info as to what is considered a repaint. I would greatly appreciate any clarification.

Ok, let me give you what I think are the definitions:

Varient- a similar model released in the same "generation", but has slight difference. Sometimes it is done for cost cutting (Ultra Magnus rubber/plastic wheels), sometimes for fun (yellow cliff jumper & red bumblebee), and sometimes for governmental guilines (Masterpiece Megatron released with an orange tip in America. *)

Repaint- the exact same figure that was realeased previously, but is presented in different colors. Sometimes to add a new char with a new name. Sometimes to make a special edition of the figure.

To make sure I have this correct, please grade the following sentence for accuracy.

The Pepsi Optimus Prime is a Gen 1 repaint cab with a varient trailer.

Another question I have is I have sometimes heard that any figure that is released with the same name, but major differences in thier construction (ie: Gen 1 Optimus v/s classic voyager Optimus) refered to as repaints. Would this be an accurate term?

* No I have not seen this for real ... pure conjecture to the best of my knowledge

Commander Megatron · Post by **Commander Megatron** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:18 am

Lets see, you answered your own question with the varient as in a different color, or rubber wheels etc,etc.

The repaint would be along the lines of the G1 cab of you and Optimus Prime. That is a perfect example of a repaint. Same mold just a different color, cost cutting and all that.

The targetmasters of Hotrod,Kup,Blurr,Scourge and Cyclonus are varients as well. the only thing was the hand hole was made bigger to fit the peg for the Nebulan partner into.

Post by **Time Traveller** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 3:43 pm

To further expound on this, based on your cliffy/ bee example:
variant is two versions of the same figure, same line.
repaint tries to sell it as a separate character, like a "super" version, or whatever, or in a different series (ie. Beast wars depthcharge, Universe depthcharge.)
So even though cliff and bee are same casting different colors, they were packaged as the same toy, so they're a variant.
My affectionate term for repaints is mold-flogging.
They try to sell the same toy in every damn line with little to no modifications, and beat a dead horse. Like the modern cyclonus. armada helicopter, repainted as "powerlinx" cyclonus, then lightly remolded and sold as Cybertron cyclonus.
Note, however, that there is also a VARIANT... a KB Toys armada cyclonus had a slightly different color scheme.... however he was sold as the same character as regular armada cyclonus, not "powered up" or anything like that.

Jose · Post by **Jose** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 3:52 pm

In my opinion "variant" is a wider term that includes "repaint".

And going in-depth through this, you can regard "repaints" as major variants as they are noticeable from far away.

Regarding mold alterations, most of the times they are because of cost-cutting, but also because of structural problems, safety concerns, etc.

Post by **Time Traveller** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 3:59 pm

i guess i wouldn't classify powerlinx cylconus as a variant cus they sold it under a different name, different character... kinda like how starscream isn't a variant of thundercracker.

Arcee · Post by **Arcee** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 10:03 pm

...GOD D*MN IT.

Post by **Time Traveller** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 10:22 pm

is the dark blue one the Target exclusive movie toy?

I think you were also repainted several times as botcon exclusives of the other fembots.

Arcee · Post by **Arcee** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 10:40 pm

Time Traveller wrote:is the dark blue one the Target exclusive movie toy?

Yup.

I think you were also repainted several times as botcon exclusives of the other fembots.

Guess that doesn't surprise me...

Post by **Ultra Magnus** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 11:22 pm

Thanks, you guys did clarify it a bit for me. So the Voyager v/s Gen 1 Prime refered to as a repaint is a bit off, but I was pretty close on my other assumptions.

Oh, and it is definitely time for the TFL braintrust to gather the resources necessary for an Arcee costum build that transforms into the car not the cycle. I will gladly purchase the Gen 1 Wheelee and smash with a hammer as many times as it take to obtain the hood.

Arcee · Post by **Arcee** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 9:54 am

Ultra Magnus wrote:Oh, and it is definitely time for the TFL braintrust to gather the resources necessary for an Arcee costum build that transforms into the car not the cycle. I will gladly purchase the Gen 1 Wheelee and smash with a hammer as many times as it take to obtain the hood.

I like your style.

Post by **Ultra Magnus** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 10:22 am

I am sure that we have got to be able to do better than this:

http://members.fortunecity.com/zobovor/ ... tbash.html

Not that it was a bad attempt by this guy, Just we need to remember that she has curves.

Oh, and any reason to destroy wheelie is good, he was like T-bot from M.A.S.K., or Jar-Jar Binks to me.

Arcee · Post by **Arcee** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 2:20 pm

Holy box-swallowing Autobots, Batman! That's pretty bad, but it's sad to say I've seen worse.
Did you check out the links on the bottom of the page? I would kill for that Botcon Japan Arcee...

Ultra Magnus wrote:Oh, and any reason to destroy wheelie is good, he was like Jar-Jar Binks to me.

HAH. See, Rodimus? I'm not the only one who hates Jar Jar (with a fiery passion).

Rodimus Prime · Post by **Rodimus Prime** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 2:24 pm

whas this? me'sa not popular with people?

mesa think me gonna die of shame!!

Arcee · Post by **Arcee** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 2:30 pm

You know, not only did you just taint this board's integrity with a picture of Jar Jar, but you simply HAD to go and find possibly the ugliest, most repulsive photo of him ever. You're lucky I don't peel off that Autobot symbol. =P

Commander Megatron · Post by **Commander Megatron** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 2:49 pm

I HATED THAT CREATURE!!! I would have loved to have tied his tongue to his ears and pulled them so it they hid his face. the if you pulled it again you could see his face. A bit like venetian blinds!!

Post by **Ultra Magnus** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 6:41 pm

Arcee wrote:Holy box-swallowing Autobots, Batman! That's pretty bad, but it's sad to say I've seen worse.
Did you check out the links on the bottom of the page? I would kill for that Botcon Japan Arcee...

I did see that one, but it doesn't make the car, I don't think.

Arcee · Post by **Arcee** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 6:53 pm

Really? Are you sure? I just assumed from the side-by-side photos that it did.

It's still rather nice, though.

Post by **Ultra Magnus** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 7:06 pm

I am sorry, I take it back. I was thinking of the action master, the other page wouldn't load for me. Now all we have to do is find the idiot that won the special edition prize and rough him up a bit.

Commander Megatron · Post by **Commander Megatron** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 2:41 pm

Leave that to me and the Stunticons... Motormaster, go get it!!

Arcee · Post by **Arcee** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 2:54 pm

So after all my b*tching and moaning about the stupidly blue-painted movie Arcee figure, Rodimus ended up buying her for me when he was here (much to my protests, might I add). We opened her up and transformed her, and ... well ... I uh ... *gulp* ... love her so much.

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